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frivolous. this is a matter of seeking information because the most sacred right we have as americans is being jeopardized. >> georgia state representative stay sill abrams. thank you. that is "all in for this evening." >> good evening, chris. thank you. and thanks to you at home for joining us this hour. we 'got a big show tonight. the nation's top expert on infectious disease is going to be with us tonight. very much looking forward to that conversation. but we need to start tonight with some breaking news from the united states supreme court. late tonight, just within the last couple of hours, the u.s. supreme court has handed down a pretty significant ruling on abortion rights. the u.s. supreme court tonight reversed a lower court ruling that earlier this month had shut down all but the last handful of abortion clinics in the state of texas. tonight, because of this intervention from if supreme
court, the dozen clinics that were basically shuttered overnight earlier this month, legally, those clinics should be able to reopen effective immediately. whether or not their can let rally reopen, whether they're in any position to reopen, that remains to be seen. but legally, at least, they are now officially unshutdown. this all stems from a sweeping piece of anti-abortion legislation. the law did eventually pass. it was signed into law by row publy can governor rick perry in texas. two weeks ago, a federal appeals court did rule that the entire texas law could take effect. and when that appeals court made that ruling two weeks ago, that shut down nearly 80% of the clinics that provide abortions in texas. before this law took effect, there had been more than 40 clinics in texas.
that provided abortions after the appeals court let the full law go into effect two weeks ago. all by agt clinics in the state shut down. from 40 clinics plus to agt. there are 5.4 million women of reproductive age in the state 06 texas. in the year 2011, which is the last year for which we have data, it's thought that more than 70,000 women in texas had an abortion that year. but, again, the number of places they can do that have gone from more than 40 down to eight. that ruling left no clinics open south or west of the city of san antonio. there was not a single clinic in the entirety of the rio grande valley. asking that the supreme court take immediate action to put this whole thing on hold. allow those clinics to reopen. at issue here is part of the abortion law which forced abortion clinics to make
multi-million dollar renovations, basically. that particular part of the law was put on hold. in part, because they are the only clinics in their respective, vast and remote corners of the state of texas. i should tell you that one of the clinics that got that specific reprieve from the supreme court tonight is the clinic that we visited a few months ago. this is the clinic in the rio grande valley. it has been the only clinic that did abortions in that whole huge part of texas before this texas law shut them down. as of tonight, they will legally be able to reopen. ever since this law was pasted last year against that
filibuster wendy davis, it has been suspected that this has been shutting down some of the most important parts of that law and letting lynn clinics reopen. the decenting judges from this decision were justices skelea, thomas and aledo. they were perfectly confident with keeping the law in effect. ultimately, it's not clear if this is the final word. the case will go back to the circuit. that's not to be before the end of the year, at the earliest. in the meantime, clinics are reopening in texas and that draconian law will remain on hold. four of her clinics were forced to close.
amy miller, thanks very much for joining us tonight. i appreciate you being here. >> oh, absolutely. it's nice to talk to you with something good happening. >> obviously, this is good news for you and people who support abortion rights in the state of texas. first of all, did i summarize it accurately? i'm still trying to absorb this ruling and what's your reaction? >> my reaction is i'm very delighted. i can't believe that we got both kennedy and roberts to rule in our favor. i think that's a huge precedent for us. it delightful to be able to say yes to the women who have been calling us instead of having to turn them away as we've had to do in the last two weeks. we are already calling trying to set up a physician in that state to serve women in that community. we're doing our best to keep our ft. worth office open.
>> when you say you've been turning women away, since the federal appeals court a couple of weeks ago issued that ruling that shut down so many clinics, including that clinic in mccowan, did you have women still coming into the clinic still trying to be there for their appointment and you had to turn them away? >> absolutely, rachel. over the last two weeks, we had quite a few women. the day after the injux returned, we had every single patient show up anyway. it's not a community that we can call everybody by home. my staff found themselves there the whole day with those women doing, you know, ultra sounds and counseling and talking with them and doing our best to raise money for some who were able to travel north to get services. but there were quite a few women who said i can't travel north and take matters into my own hands.
those will be some of the first people we reach out to. amy hagstrom miller, founder of whole woman's health. thanks for being with us. keep us posted on what happens next. >> thank you, rachel. >> joining us now is nancy norfolk who's president of center for reproductive rights. nancy, when we talked about you asking asked the supreme court to intervene, sort of on an emergency basis in this case, i did not think you were going to get what you want. you clearly have received the ruling that you were looking for. is this what you wanted to happen? is this half the way there? is this everything? >> it's exactly what we wanted from the supreme court right now. it's extraordinary the action that they took tonight. extraordinary in the sense that it's not usual. for the supreme court to step in at this point in a lawsuit. and it's extraordinary for what it means to the women in texas. to have 13 clinics remain open,
that's just huge. we are delighted. >> it is a -- it is not the final ruling. obviously, this goes back to that appeals court which will. it is a very conservative court, not as it used to be, but it's still pretty conservative. in the meantime, we see the immediate effect that those 13 clinics reopened at least all of them that it can. what does it mean to you legally? that you did get justice kennedy? you did get justice roberts? you did get a bigger split than you would expect. it wasn't 5-4, it was 6-3. does that say anything to you about this issue? >> you never want to make a substantive inference from what the court does. but clearly, six members thought it was important to take this unusual step and to reverse the decision by the fifth circuit which was closing those clinics and allow the injux at the
district court. we wanted trial. the district court found this is a sham law and that it's designed to shut down the clinics. and the court put back into place the injections that that judge had found. so that is a very good sign. a year ago, when unfortunately, half the clinics in texas are still closed in the wake of that law. and when we were up in the supreme court a year ago, we were not able to get the clinics reopened. and that was in a 5-4 ruling from the court. we're looking at 6-3 today. it's a better day. >> so the parts of the law, they used to be before this law, there were 40 some clinics that did abortions in the state of texas. after the law, it shut down about half of them. and then these final provisions of law were allowed to go into effect a few weeks ago. that shut down all of about seven or eight. it is that final portion? >> that's right. it's those 13 clinics that are
able to be reopened and in practice during the time of the appeals court that. 's a good thing. in just the days in which they were closed, a lot of damage was done. >> nancy, keep us posted. thank you for your time. i appreciate it. >> all right. lots more ahead tonight, including what a world war -- pre-world war ii era airplane can teach us about combatting ebola. plus, we've got the nation's top expert on infectious diseases here. plus, we have one of my favorite stories in a long time that involves a fancy hotel spying on a secret trend station. yes, stay with us. the conference call.
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that is not how it got its name. hill air force base is actually named after a guy named hill. peter hill, a u.s. army test pilot who died in really dramatic circumstances while flying test flights in a new plane that the army was considering buying at the time. in the 1930s, the army air corps wanted a big, new bomber to add to its fleet. and boeing designed one to try to get that contract. boeing was almost kaput as a company at that point. they basically bet the whole future of their company on trying to win this army air corps contract. and what they built was a whole new approach. instead of two engines, it had four. it was huge.
its wing span was more than a hundred feet wide. it could fly faster than previous bombers, it could fly further. it could hold tons more bombs than the army had been able to put in a plane like this before. but on october 30th, that boeing test model number 299, the 299 had an ace test pilot named ployer peter hill at the controls. it was being evaluated by the army to see if they were going to invest in this huge, amazing new plane that could do so much more than any other bomber had before. and in that test, the plane crashed. took off, it got its nose up way too high. basically went straight up and cart wheeled over on one side, came down on one wing and exploded into flames. peter hill, the chief of flight testing in the u.s. army air corps. he was piloting that plane. he was killed instantly.
if army awarded the initial contract for their new bomber to a competing aircraft to a different company. turned out there was nothing wrong with the plane. it was human error. a thing was locked at take off that was unlocked. it was enough to crash the model 299. a doctor and writer wrote about this for the new yorker magazine a few years ago. because that diagnosis of that plane crash, that diagnosis that this incredibly good, incredibly experienced, incredibly expert pilot was responsible for that crash. it wasn't the plane's fault. it was the pilot's fault. that diagnosis led to a really important cure. convince that this boeing bomber was still the right plane for the u.s. military. after that crash, a group of u.s. test pilots had gotten
together. they still wanted that plane and they wanted to try to figure out a way that the army could still use this boeing plane. and what they came up with was deceptively simple. it was a checklist, a point-by-point pilot's checklist for taxiing in that plane, taking off in that plane, flying that plane and landing that plane. so, yes, this boeing model 299 was more complicated than other planes had been at that point. but if you didn't just depend on the expert pilot memorizing everything and doing everything perfect, if, instead, you broke it down and you wrote everything down that needed doing and you made someone in the dock pit o overtly check off every time those things needed to be done, well, then, maybe it was flyable. maybe the army air corps could have this plane with all of this capability that they wanted so bad. well, that plane went onto be
the b-17 bomber, which was, frankly, a really big help in bombing the snot out of the nazis in world war ii, thank you very much. and, yes, the b-17 and its proet types, they were more complicated than planes had been before. but with this pilot's checklist innovation, pilots flying after peter hill went onto fly that boeing plane nearly 2 million miles without having another accident. and to this day, one of the things pilots carry around in those giant, over-sized boxy suit cases is their dock pit checklist. it seems like a dumb thing, but it turns out that having someone check with you overtly that you have taken every step you need to take, it can make all the difference. it can make the difference between you just being an expert and you being the kind of expert who performs basically flawlessly in an environment
that account not tolerate mistakes. and the reason that peter hill has become something that doctors write about in popular magazines is because that idea, that deceptively simple idea of the pilot's checklist, that's the same basic idea that led to check lists being used by doctors. there's now a famous study from johns hopkins hospital about a decade ago in which intensive care unit nurses were told to follow a checklist. fill out a checklist every time doctors put in a central line catheter, which is a big kat they are that goes into the neck. and nurses were told to use the checklist to make sure that doctors followed all the steps they needed to follow to keep the patient from getting an infection when they were getting a line inserted in their neck. and, you know, this kind of stuff, i wouldn't want to do it.
but to a doctor, it's not rocket science. it's stuff they needed to do and wasn't the toughest. but at johns hopkins, they, never the less, decided to put all steps on a checklist. >> and then look at this, look at what the checklist did. the unit that made this change monitored the results in patients for a year after they started this checklist system. the results were so dramatic that they weren't sure whether to believe them. the ten-day line infection rate went from ten days to zero. hospital in this checklist had prevented 43 infections and eight deaths. just putting what they already knew they should do on a written
checklist as a way of making sure they actually did it. just like flying the b-17. >> this is not the hardest thing about their jobs. washing your hands is not something you need years of medical school to do. but that is the kind of stuff it turns out that can easily go wrong. it doesn't mean that you're an idiot. you might be the most intensely trained expert in the world in your field. but that kind of stuff can go wrong. we're human. and so there needs to be ways, systemic ways, of stopping those kinds of small and schism but potentially fatal errors.
a checklist works, turns out. genius. >> the hospital in dallas had him in isolation. its employees, presumably including this infected nurse were all issued and wearing protective gear that you're supposed to wear when you're in contact with someone who's symptomatic of ebola. but somewhere along the way, something went wrong. the centers for disease control says they are confident in their advice to help facilities in how to protect yourself. medically, it does not seem like there's reason to denounce the protocols they had been prescribing.
everything has to be done right. will that be cockpit style checklists? what's the perception? as we deal with our first cases of ebola, avoiding an outbreak is not rocket science. but from the people who do come into contact, it's going to take, basically, perfect behavior from those individuals. is there is no margin of error. how do we get that? the cdc today held a nationwide training conference call for
health workers on how to deal with potential ebola cases. they're ramping up advice after the still unexplained failure in dallas led to this worker contracting the virus in this country. they're reminding us that after all, it really could turn up anywhere. >> every hospital in the country needs to be read gill to dike noes ebola. everyone needs to ask where have you been in the past month. where have you been in the past 21 days. have you been to liberia, sierra leonne or guinea. >> the number of cases have been treated in the united states
stands at seven. of those 7 patients, three have recovered, three are still in treatment and one has died. those are our numbers here and how successfully we've dealt with this disease so far. we knew ebola was spreading rapidly. with this spike in the progression of ebola, any time you see a graph shoot up like this, unless the thing you're measuring is a good thing, in which case this is not, you're looking at a really scary trend. it's on track to be 10,000 full-times next month.
>> the cdc announced a new program to get their experts on the ground anywhere in the country immediately as soon as there is a new ebola diagnosis. >> the second thing that we will be doing is establishing a cdc ebola response team. anyone in the country that has a confirmed case of ebola, we will put a team on the ground within hours with some of the world's leading experts in how to take care of and protect health department care workers from ebola infection. >> today, we anxiously awaited
word from one of those hospitals dealing with potential cases. this was different than a lot of scares. he had worked as a medical officer on a ship. he entered this hospital in kansas city with a high fever and with other symptoms that could be associated with ebola. they announced the initial test came back negative. it is a good sign, obviously, that the initial test did not show that he was infected. a desperately needed piece of good news today against the backdrop of huge and alarming international numbers. and a ton of fear about what we are facing even here in the united states.
there's also a real need to communicate with us, right? to communicate effectively with the american public about this new disease we've never thought very much about before. of course, we do have a position in our government for that exact purpose. that's what the surgeon general does. the senate never voted on his nomination. the national rival association decided they didn't like him. they announced they would score murphy. and that was it. that was enough to send senators running.
that void has been filled with the national institute of infectious diseases. those two have filled that public role which entails keeping us informed about what's going on. honestly, that's not supposed to be their job. they're very busy guys. instead of having someone communicating to the country what the people who are fixing the problem are doing, turns out the people who are fixing the problem have to be responsible themselves for communicating what they're doing. we have no surgeon general during the ebola crisis. thank you, congress. yet, another reason to be thankful for our current congress.
a single ember that escapes from a wildfire can travel more than a mile. that single ember can ignite and destroy your home or even your community you can't control where that ember will land only what happens when it does get fire adapted now at fireadapted.org the world as a whole is not doing enough. there are a number of countries that have capacity that have not yet stepped up. those that have stepped up, all of us are going to have to do more. >> on the day that the world health organization upped its estimate of new ebola infections from roughly 1,000 new infections a week now to 10,000 new infections a week within sometime within the next two
months. what we need to do right now is talk to an expert in how our nation is responding. >> good to be with you. >> can you shed some lights for us on why that estimate leapt 10 folds today? >> why did the forecast go up by tenfold today? >> it's spreading exponential. as you get more and more people who are getting infected and not getting into the kind of isolation and able to contact trace, they're infected a lot more people than if you had a system where as soon as somebody was identified as infected, and there is no place to go, they go
out into the community and they infect several other people, so, instead of the curve just going up this way, it goes up like that the way you just showed on that slide. >> so in terms of, i mean, the -- not just the experience in sierra leone and guinea and liberia which is so tragic, but in terms of the risk to the globe, in terms of the locust of this epidemic and getting that under control, is that basically the idea of what u.s. military forces and logistical help is doing there? trying to upscale the number of places people can go so they stop infecting people in the community. >> that's exactly the point. the military is involved in setting up those 17 by 100 hospital bed units.
that's a big leak to what we have now. now, as you just showed that piece, there is no one country that can actually do that alone. that's close to 2,000 beds. setting the organization's ngos. it's not just one person or group or country doing it. as the epidemic itself in the speed of its expansion out strips the speed and quantity is that the health workers that are there to work actually are commensurate with what the
challenge is there. right now, they're not. it's all catch-up ball. >> in terms of the u.s. contribution to that and u.s. leadership on that, obviously, we're doing this out of self interest but also out of responsibility for global leadership because this affects everybody and everybody at risk. today, there was an interesting development when an american billionaire, the guy who founded facebook, decided to give $25 million as a personal donation to the cdc foundation to try to help contribute to that effort. on if one hand, that makes me happy for him. i'm glad he has those resources and that's where he wants to put them. it does call to question whether or not as a government, as a country, as a country, whether we are resourcing adequately what we're doing. whether this is the sort of thing where we ought to be saying bar the door, the budget needs to get really big really fast. that's a good point. no one is doing enough.
we're doing a lot. but i think if we get the global community involved, that's going to be something that may be compounding the amount that you're doing. and that's what you need to do. right now, getting the military there was really an important thing because we really do need the command and control of the logistics, the engineering and the able to get those beds up. again, i have to emphasize that we can't do it alone. >> is it clear to you that we are never going to know how she became infected? forgive the term, but can that be postmortemed i have enough in terms of the the way she reacted to let us know how that happened
so we can stop it from happening with any other health care workers here? >> we may not be ache to know exactly what this particular individual came into -- how they came into contact with the virus that actually infected her, unfortunately. but i think a review of how things are operating there could give some important hints as to what really needs to be changed. clearly it's not 5:00 clearly it's not 5:00 acceptable to have our health to have our health department care parter ins in danger where they get infected. it is entirely conceivable if that person is working you should the same circumstances, they may very well have the idea of being very proactive in the training and not just make it passive like reading a web site or here's a piece of paper, but to make it actively drilling to be sure that these people are
very talented or trained to do it and the idea of getting that team of cdc people down there to be able to be on siet is a major step forward. >> thank you very much for talking with us. i know the public communications part of it is probably a bigger job than expected. but it's really helpful, so thank you, sir. >> good to be here. >> much more ahead, including the secret train story that i love more than life itself. please stay with us.
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; i know it's tuesday, but imagine it's friday. you're off work, your whole weekend is ahead of you, you have a date. you pick a fancy place downtown, conversation is snappy. entertaining, but not forced. everything is going well. you're already thinking about desert. and then smoke ball. what we have for you here is an amazing piece of tape. this is the first frame of security footage taken outside of a new york city restaurant. it's about 6:00 p.m. you can see it's still light out. i want you to keep an eye on what happens with this yellow subway grate in the subway. okay. watch the subway grate. you see? the circles are covering up the faces of people eating at the
restaurant. oh, what's coming out of that little hatch? oh, i wonder if that's a maintenance worker or something. people eating dinner don't seem to mind. oh, hey, there's the waiter. oh, yeah, that was a smoke bomb. being tossed into a fancy restaurant. yeah, that was a smoke bomb being tossed into a fancy restaurant. can we just watch this part of it again? watch the guy with the smoke bomb. you have to love the new yorker who walks up to the grate as it opens. doesn't blink. keeps on moving. guy pops out of the hatch. the guy pops out of the hatch, throws the smoke bomb and goes back down the hatch. that yellow hatch is an emergency exit for the subway in case there's an evacuation of the station of tunnels. apparently it should be guarded with an alarm. the dude tosses the smoke grenade into the restaurant and then hops back in and disappears. just pops out, throws the grenade, back in, disappears. and he really does disappear. police say they're looking for him. white male in his 20s wearing an american flag t-shirt.
we don't know why he did it. if it was some sort of a prank, if it was a test. and there have been some other, maybe it's a security breach, maybe it's performance art moments in new york city over the past few months. there were the german artists who snuck on to the brooklyn bridge and replaced the flags on the bridge, the american flags with white flags instead. there was also the dudes base jumping from the new world trade center. i get vertigo just watching it. but this new one at the greenwich village restaurant kind of makes your stomach turn in a different way. what if it was not just a smoke bomb kind of way. after that guy did that weird thing at that restaurant, he popped out of the subway grate, popped the smoke grenade through it and wept away, the guy got away scot-free. they haven't found him. yeah, it was just pink smoke.
>> i love this story so much i can hardly stand it. here goes. a few weeks before the great stock market crash of 1929 and the beginning of the great depression, this last bit of guilded age amazement ran in "the new york times," september 8, 1929 pl new waldorf gets own rail siding. the new waldorf astoria will get a rail siding. guests with private rail cars can have it directly into the hotel. and they may leave their private
rail cars at a special elevator which will take them directly to spare suites or hotel lobby. must have been grand, right? taking your own private railroad car and having you drop i you off at a private railroad stations at the waldorf astoria hotel. you can park your rail car down stair. the bellhop will help you and your luggage right into the elevator and right into your suite. must have been very, very nice. but then it became national security. what began as a luxury perk for the unimaginably rich became ultimately an important escape route and a source of privacy for vips including u.s. presidents when they were staying at the waldorf in new york city on official business. and yes, that train track may have been put in more than 80 years ago before the great depression, but that train line is still down there. and every few decades it gets discovered again. as mysterious track 61, the hidden vip-only train station
stuck underneath this fancy hotel. >> travelers using the station, including general douglas macarthur. not only was it convenient for roosevelt, but it offered a way for him to travel. >> he and his advisers went through elaborate precautions to make sure even though the country knew he had polio, they did not know he could not walk on his own power again. >> the night of october 31, 1924, after a long day of traveling through the burroughs of new york city -- >> we have to back american words with american deeds. >> after the speech, he descended to the basement. >> when that speech was over, what a pleasure it must have
been to go back in without people seeing the body carried to the train. >> so what a discover of the secret railroads. presidents stay in that hotel. lots of other countries' presidents do as well. in 2003, amid hyper security fear whence george w. bush came to new york that fall, they kept a train idling on the tracks so president bush would have a getaway if he needed it that year. here's president obama at the hotel for meetings. that hotel is also the regular home, the permanent residence for whoever is the ambassador to the united nations. part of the gig is you get a big suite at the waldorf to live in. it's not exactly a secondary white house but it's a little close. essentially the residential outpost of the president and his
administration for when they have business in new york. and because of that, it was bigger news than its appeared to be at first when news broke that the waldorf had just been sold to the chinese that has ties to the ruling communist party in china. u.s. state department officials now say that this is the thing. the state department is publicly expressing their concerns that the chinese government might use the new purchase to spy on u.s. officials staying at the waldorf. officials say monday they are reviewing the sale and implying the glittering renovation scheme might mask a nefarious purpose -- espionage. as in they're worried the chinese spies will bug the rooms. the state department already warns u.s. diplomats going to china that their hotel rooms could be bugged. now they're concerned the chinese might bug hotel room here's, including the room where the mount stays every year and where the ambassador to the u.n. lives all around.
press 1 for the front desk, press 2 for the news service to the people's republic of china. i love this story. we will see you tomorrow. this but i love this story. "first look" is up next. good morning, everybody. right now on "first look," dozens of tornadoes and powerful thunderstorms will cause some major damage and travel troubles around the country today. 10,000 cases of ebola every week. that is what the world health organization is predicting. is that just the beginning, though? one of the biggest and most expensive perks to female employees. plus, 100 sharks in the midst of a feeding frenzy. also, saying good-bye to a fallen hero. and gas prices really taking a dive. good morning and thanks for joining us today. i'm betty nguyen. right now bracing for bad weather. millions are watching the sky as severe storms move in on the northeast. floodi a